1000cc Trophy Truck Build | Rolling Chassis + Steering!

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We fabricate steering for the front of our 1000cc BMW powered trophy kart, giving us a rolling chassis! Unfortunately, the steering needs heavy revision. Because of the twin I beam front suspension setup (and well over 12 inches of travel), we're running into excessive bump steer issues. We use a 90 degree PTO box, heim joints, tubing, and flat bar to build the steering, but it has more bump steer than we'd like, the steering ratio is too quick, and the steering box we're using may not hold up to the abuse we'll be throwing at this machine. We've ordered parts and will tackle it next time!
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Noah Meeler
Noah Meeler 4 օր առաջ
I have a 16 horse 4x4 kubota and its a 1980s model yours is not old lol
Surfzap63
Surfzap63 4 ամիս առաջ
I am glad you guys leave your learning moments in your videos. This is how most of us encounter these type issues in real life as we DIY. Learning how to think through, work through and re-evaluate potential solutions is crucial to learn. Unbiased critical thinking is a valuable tool. A couple other favorite channels I watch (looking at you Junkyard Digs and Mustie1) also show their work and I learn right along with you guys (It’s also great fun!). I appreciate the reality in your real-world builds. Great work, I subscribed a while ago, and I watch often!
Chase Bridges
Chase Bridges 5 ամիս առաջ
Ha ha someone owes someone a CokeCol ahahah
Peter Papadellis
Peter Papadellis 5 ամիս առաջ
“Looks like you got it figured out buddy”😅 He keeps getting in your way while your trying to think Isaac
Benjamin Piland
Benjamin Piland 6 ամիս առաջ
Man how do u guys get time for this
JD Random
JD Random 6 ամիս առաջ
Gear the steering down with chain and sprocket.
bill dursa
bill dursa 6 ամիս առաջ
Bump steer may be affected by how high the steering link is on the spindle
kanook450
kanook450 6 ամիս առաջ
Google swing set steering. You’re missing the second swing in the system
aben albert
aben albert 6 ամիս առաջ
am-posts.info/list/zLism6C7p4nEnno/video
Colin Smith
Colin Smith 6 ամիս առաջ
am-posts.info/list/rpvbnqPaznu9kKA/video
Colin Smith
Colin Smith 6 ամիս առաջ
Hey guys.. I have eventually learnt to eliminate bump SCRUB, which is when the wheels push outwards. The maths is actually very simple. Check out my electric skateboards travel. Contact me.
Gregory Domaradzki
Gregory Domaradzki 6 ամիս առաջ
Trophy truck? Not quite!
Levi Keslar
Levi Keslar 7 ամիս առաջ
Where are you getting the steel/aluminum? you use
funny Guys
funny Guys 7 ամիս առաջ
you have done it again your the best
Baker Farms
Baker Farms 7 ամիս առաջ
6:26 all righty then
Michael Whaley
Michael Whaley 7 ամիս առաջ
2000 is not old for a kubota, nice tractor
D K
D K 7 ամիս առաջ
"no longer on the floor" Very next scene they're on the floor. lol
Jonathan Martin
Jonathan Martin 7 ամիս առաջ
Were any of the steering links longer than anticipated that could have caused toe out and been taken as bump steer
sxs rides at hatfield mccoy and hollerwood
sxs rides at hatfield mccoy and hollerwood 7 ամիս առաջ
Guys buy a electric ezsteer power steering kit problem solved
Matt Carlson
Matt Carlson 7 ամիս առաջ
Miss alingment spacers will do uou wonders on the hemis!
tyler mackenzie
tyler mackenzie 7 ամիս առաջ
box and gusset those lower shock mounts!!
werksalot
werksalot 7 ամիս առաջ
Hey guys you used parts off the Mazda Miata why not the Rack and Pinion ?
Frank Zimmerman
Frank Zimmerman 7 ամիս առաջ
Try 1 bottom drag link,,and 1 steering arm ,from 1 side to steering box ,,should work great
MegaDirtyberty
MegaDirtyberty 7 ամիս առաջ
Think 2000 is old.............hahahahahahahahaha
Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson 7 ամիս առաջ
Grind hard plumbing co put an electric power steering box into their newest jeep power wheels
mrtngmz82
mrtngmz82 7 ամիս առաջ
yes it's called geometry. LOL
foxrace0985
foxrace0985 7 ամիս առաջ
No tractor shots! 😥 lol, live this build tho.
Jeremy Rittenhouse
Jeremy Rittenhouse 7 ամիս առաջ
Power steering
Trigg Ramsey
Trigg Ramsey 7 ամիս առաջ
If the can use front independent suspension off a Miata does that mean I can use it off of a 90cc four wheeler ( I'm 13 by the way)
Meme Man
Meme Man 7 ամիս առաջ
I would imagine, but I'm 12, so don't take my word for it.
Ethan Henneberry
Ethan Henneberry 7 ամիս առաջ
The tab on the steering box is called a pitman arm and the idlers are indeed called idler arms
Dean Hallam
Dean Hallam 7 ամիս առաջ
I couldn't help but laugh when John called a 2000 Kubota a beater. Granted, I haven't seen it yet, but I've got a '52 Case in my yard that I dug out of my grandpa's shed to replace the engine. Gas powered, 2wd, hand clutch, no power steering. Plus the starter's bad and I can't find the crank, so I have to pull it with the truck to start it. I think you're going to find a lot more uses for your Kubota than you expect. Loader tractors are awesome.
James Lyles
James Lyles 7 ամիս առաջ
U guys should make a go kart out of a wheelbarrow
hitzdaskinz
hitzdaskinz 7 ամիս առաջ
You boys are Fn amazing.
supertedogpriken
supertedogpriken 7 ամիս առաջ
What hapend to all of the 2 stroke snowmobile engines you guys got from subscribers?? Did you just give up on the whole 2stroke life or is it coming in later videos?? Just watched Grind hard plumbing and there Snowmobile Honda Odyssey. And that thing just rips...
TheRobb573
TheRobb573 7 ամիս առաջ
I say keep the steering as-is and use a good steering wheel. Not so hard to steer when it's moving, my dirt track race car is the same way.
Joey Crandall
Joey Crandall 7 ամիս առաջ
With i beam i think you need to have the pitman arm at the same angle as the steering knuckles and an arm that goes to the opposite tire that the steering box is on. And the tie rods joined at the same pivot point as the beams.
The Queen
The Queen 7 ամիս առաջ
I have a yangdong 3 cylinder diesel in a mazda minitruck, it isn't hard at all, maybe get another beater tractor and yank the engine for a minitruck swap, or buy one new from the factory for 1400 dollars.
playsintraffic
playsintraffic 7 ամիս առաջ
Love the channel! Also a Kubota BX owner. Its like driving the loader from aliens. Good choice.
Troy Crowder
Troy Crowder 7 ամիս առաջ
nice work guys
Hunter Hinton
Hunter Hinton 7 ամիս առաջ
If you all start having bad bump steer problems, try changing the angle of your drag links by refabing your "pitman arms" to change the angle. Ive heard of scenerios with that issue.
Westie 4AGE Turbo.
Westie 4AGE Turbo. 7 ամիս առաջ
Prius box to fix the steering?
Artemia stone
Artemia stone 7 ամիս առաջ
MAKE A 2JZ SWAPPED VERSION
Brian Walton
Brian Walton 7 ամիս առաջ
Man shit is so awesome sorry for lack of vocabulary but love everything y’all do y’all keep me doing projects n can’t wait to c talks future like CH Plays said
bob smith
bob smith 7 ամիս առաջ
This is uncle Bob. Let me know how much the rack and Pinion cost I want to do something to help you guys. email me at mitchman112@att.net. I’m really into your trophy build, can’t wait till it’s drivable.
Jason Heinrichs
Jason Heinrichs 7 ամիս առաջ
To fix thre really hard steering, put a sprocket on the 90 box and put a smaller sprocket and a chain and hook steering shaft from wheel to the smaller sprocket, boom steering reduction, should be an easy fix for you guys Edit, hadn't finished video when I posted that comment, yes a rack would make things much much better, can't wait to see this beast finished
Helge Stenhaug
Helge Stenhaug 7 ամիս առաջ
Nice build guys! I cannot give you any other advice than call up Eathan, at" Grind hard plumbing". He can sort you out on the steering. Best regards,
Matt Hudson
Matt Hudson 7 ամիս առաջ
Welds through gearbox. Oh dude its tight....
Todd Bearden
Todd Bearden 7 ամիս առաջ
Hey guys let me know what you think of this. Even if it's just a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down to let me know that you seen it. Keep up the good work guys can't wait to see that Beast trophy truck running. I would have liked to have seen you bought one that was wrecked or something or a frame if you could have got it cheap enough. Or maybe the plans for a frame although you guys did really good with yours. Let me know what you think of this video I guarantee you you will use it somewhere am-posts.info/list/r6vOtX2yp3_NjnY/video
troy barnhouse
troy barnhouse 7 ամիս առաջ
You should use electronic power steering. Grind hard plumbing used one in their 4x4 jeep build and they said it was amazing.
RZR
RZR 7 ամիս առաջ
Get some snap on tools they are so easy to work with and my favorite is the 3/8 14.4volts impact
RZR
RZR 7 ամիս առաջ
Although you might not need beacuse of the application as you might not need so much power
Timmy Crouch
Timmy Crouch 7 ամիս առաջ
I built a mini buggy for the kids with a 420 predator and atv a arms. I used a john deer tractor steering box. It was slow steering like almost 4 turns lock to lock but the kids had no trouble steering it. Worked out really good with a small go cart steering wheel. I bolted a knob it it when I was rally sporting the buggy
Jesse Johnson
Jesse Johnson 7 ամիս առաջ
It is nice to see the improvements in the shop. :). The trophy truck is looking good. :)
Mike Hopkins
Mike Hopkins 7 ամիս առաջ
I hope this turns out. It’s really pushed me away from the channel unfortunately. I like the go cart them but your really just building a mini truck. Buy a Mazda b2200 lol
Gerald Norton
Gerald Norton 7 ամիս առաջ
There's no way something is hp rated and can't handle torque. The hp only rating is probably because it's marketed to be used with electriç motors.
PitBike Amigos
PitBike Amigos 7 ամիս առաջ
I’m no expert at i beam suspension but what I do know is the steering performance is highly influenced by the position of your pivot points and the length of the steering arms. The channel wings world has a good video on their steering setup for their f-150 watching it might help.
Frank Zimmerman
Frank Zimmerman 7 ամիս առաջ
Your steering arm is cocking ,,if u put a brace back to ur frame in 2 places ,ur steering ,should work fine
Austin Engler
Austin Engler 7 ամիս առաջ
Use a Toyota Prius steering column it electric power steering
trailerhood productions
trailerhood productions 7 ամիս առաջ
Love the Ernest reference.
Mark Normal Day Clay
Mark Normal Day Clay 7 ամիս առաջ
I want to build a go-kart for my grandchildren. What type of tube steel did you use to build this cart?
Sean Sykes
Sean Sykes 7 ամիս առաջ
Guys yall should put a power stearing from say a meadia in this and see what ya can work it in too
johan Rheeder
johan Rheeder 7 ամիս առաջ
your suspension geometry is fighting your steering. look at ATV front suspension design. they have done all the hard work.
Alistair Macpherson
Alistair Macpherson 7 ամիս առաջ
You can get an inline electric power steering box. Should work great. See a recent episode of Grind Hard Plumbing's 4x4 build. Made a big difference! am-posts.info/list/zLism6C7p4nEnno/video
Burdane Gillette
Burdane Gillette 7 ամիս առաջ
Use a bike handlebars like I did for my daughter's gokart
fivetwoess
fivetwoess 7 ամիս առաջ
It's called "Tack Teaming" when your buddy holds and you weld👍
Tyler Boynton
Tyler Boynton 7 ամիս առաջ
They make electric power steering gear boxes and set the steering up like a jeep cherokee sport
Johnny Phillips
Johnny Phillips 7 ամիս առաջ
Kubota 45mph in the near future?? ?
Alex Kleinert
Alex Kleinert 7 ամիս առաջ
You could change the steering ratio playing with the lengths of the tabs for your tie rods. It's all leverage....
jaspip1678
jaspip1678 7 ամիս առաջ
Why not use a steering box from 1 of the older cars y'all were gonna use the steering wheel from? And also is that steering setup the same as a jeeps "over-under" setup?
Magros the M
Magros the M 7 ամիս առաջ
try making power steering
Alejandro Saavedra
Alejandro Saavedra 7 ամիս առաջ
I think that its design of the front part is somewhat complicated and would make future handling difficult ... in addition, I do not see it as very resistant as one would believe ... My advice, little taken into account, would simplify everything and use a suspension like a car. ..more simple..stable and easy to maneuver
Nick Berkshire
Nick Berkshire 7 ամիս առաջ
Dudes, the 2 ads every 3 minutes is kind of gratuitous... and most definitely annoying. It's like watching network television. Not trying to bash, but damn.
Captain Land Yacht
Captain Land Yacht 7 ամիս առաջ
Theres got to be a cheap electric assist alternative avalible. Maybe a Prius steering column.
Colin Schulte
Colin Schulte 7 ամիս առաջ
If that PTO box is of any quality, then there is NO chance you'll break it. If you mounted that PTO box to an implement (like a 3-point tiller) you could stall your Kubota out on it and not damage the box.
Mrmetball
Mrmetball 7 ամիս առաջ
You guys should try making a streat legal gokart and get it titled
Nathaniel Mathies
Nathaniel Mathies 7 ամիս առաջ
*bend* *bend* "Yeah I think its working!"
Derek Collins
Derek Collins 7 ամիս առաջ
buddy holding the weld is called migshift weld
Isaac Gonzalez
Isaac Gonzalez 7 ամիս առաջ
Ya’ll should bring back the ratty go karts. Like ike’s blue go kart
Wes King
Wes King 7 ամիս առաջ
Hey fellers; when y’all gonna weld a work table together and not work on the concrete? Just sayin ya killin me. Is a Rat Cart in y’all’s future builds?. I sincerely enjoy watching and learning from you guys. Best of luck with the truck fab. I live 30 min from Go Power Sports, be great to meet with yas on one of your excursions to Dallas/Ft.Worth. MacFukinGruber of HaulinAss Transport, Forney Texas
brad projects
brad projects 7 ամիս առաջ
Jim Varney not Carey!
ChrispyFriedGaming
ChrispyFriedGaming 7 ամիս առաջ
HOW TO FIX THE BUMP STEER!!! Align the ends of the joints on the idler arms with the pivot point of the twin-beam arms. That way, as the suspension compresses, the steering pivot point remains closer the same length. A little play from there would get you to net zero bump steer. Also, add the offset of the knuckles ball joint location to the steering points location, and raise the idler arms to accommodate for the camber change. The higher the idler point over the arm point, the less change in toe for a given camber change, in suspension compression.
Lennie Phister
Lennie Phister 7 ամիս առաջ
HOWE racing has a 2 to 1 ratio gear you can run eather way.
Isaac Greene
Isaac Greene 7 ամիս առաջ
I've got a better way of doing if ya don't mind making me one of them
Lennie Phister
Lennie Phister 7 ամիս առաջ
Rack and pinion is the way to go!
Daniel Calabrese
Daniel Calabrese 7 ամիս առաջ
Power steering!!
Mash Rien
Mash Rien 7 ամիս առաջ
"John's over there drillin' some holes and I'm just sitting here thinking"
William Cummings
William Cummings 7 ամիս առաջ
You guys need a roll away table for your cut off saw. It drives me nuts t see you on the floor !
Conner Boyd
Conner Boyd 7 ամիս առաջ
Where do you get your karts?
Freddy Ramirez
Freddy Ramirez 7 ամիս առաջ
You guys should make like another roof next to the shop for the others cart so then that way you guys can have space inside for tables and stuff like that
Trent Dodson
Trent Dodson 7 ամիս առաջ
Hey Ike and John you guys should look at lawn tractor Steering because one tie rod runs off of the steering box and then the other tire rod runs off of the bottom or top of the spindle
otterripo11
otterripo11 7 ամիս առաջ
wait, i first had the idea and told red beard to try to do it and you actually did it, im proud
Joseph Parker
Joseph Parker 7 ամիս առաջ
I'm having trouble finding some 52mm air cleaner pods anyone got any leads
Shredxcam22
Shredxcam22 7 ամիս առաջ
Draw an imaginary line between the upper and lower ball joint at the wheel. Then find the center. Trace from there to the pivot point on the other end of the arm. Your steering arm needs angle needs to be parallel and the same length to prevent bump steer For Ackerman draw a line between the front end pivots to the center of the rear axle. Now put your steering tie rod ends on those lines. Easy money You'll realize the limit of a 22hp tractor pretty quick. They just dont weigh enough. I have a 50hp tractor. You will be limited to a 4ft bush hog and limited lift wise to 500-700lbs on the loader.
M Wolfe
M Wolfe 7 ամիս առաջ
Great video guys, loving this project.
Leroy De Vries
Leroy De Vries 7 ամիս առաջ
It is pretty simple, if the pivot point of the steering is in line with the pivot point of the control arm. You have no bumb steer. Since the right steering linkage is no not anymore in line, you will have bumpsteer at the right weel
Duan Sadie
Duan Sadie 7 ամիս առաջ
swap the hubs so the steering arms is up higher
J FRANK SENIOR
J FRANK SENIOR 7 ամիս առաջ
Ike did you pop John in the eye again lol glad to hear about the tractor 20 years ain't old lol
Tyler Shupp
Tyler Shupp 7 ամիս առաջ
Prius electric power steering
marcus horsley
marcus horsley 7 ամիս առաջ
Can't wait for some tractor videos!
N8thegr8
N8thegr8 7 ամիս առաջ
Dolly stools are the best thing I ever bought
David De Wilde
David De Wilde 7 ամիս առաջ
Hello, Any tractor shop will have the 1 3/8 z6 coupling you need for the steering box. As long as you use the original Miata steering arms facing forwards you will have bumpsteer. Cheers from Belgium.
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