Mini Trophy Truck gets Twin I Beam Suspension! 1000cc Trophy Kart Pt. 5

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We wanted to fabricate twin I beam (aka twin traction beam) suspension for the mini trophy truck we're building simply because we had never tried it before. So far it's been trickier to set up than double wishbone, but at least we're getting over 12" of travel! The main benefit of twin I beam suspension is supposed to be its simplicity and durability, but given our lack of equipment, it was much more difficult for us to set up properly.
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Twin i beam has been a dream of mine for go carts for so long simply because fun and travel and the ease of simplicity once its together
Dave Sendit
Dave Sendit 7 ամիս առաջ
I have twin I beam suspension on my truck. Super simple and super tough. Wouldn’t change it for anything else
nikos xois
nikos xois 7 ամիս առաջ
for suspension check this build. there are some more videos off cars possibilities.
Jarok3 7 ամիս առաջ
love that stock parts from a first gen miata is "heavy duty" xD
DAVID LABAR 7 ամիս առաջ
You have a rc cas
ste0038 7 ամիս առաջ
What tube bender are you using?
FlankyFrankie 7 ամիս առաջ
An I beam looks like a capital I (in a different font than this). More like this: ][. You have tubular arms. NOT "I beam"s.
miguel pacheco
miguel pacheco 7 ամիս առաջ
Check out how the suspension on a 1992 f150 2wd it is twin i beams. Its a easy set up on the ford and bullet proof for sure i can say from experience
orbacron 7 ամիս առաջ
Guys, do random will it run, and will it burnout episodes at Isak's
john fasano II
john fasano II 7 ամիս առաջ
I think john type guy if he had a brain he would take it out and play with it
HẢI NGỐ TVgo 7 ամիս առաջ
professional facilities too I need to study a lot
David Bray
David Bray 7 ամիս առաջ
Been real busy. Your machines are Really getting intense.
Fish R Relaxing
Fish R Relaxing 8 ամիս առաջ
Something you’re not thinking about is you’re actually going to be limited by you’re steering cause that’s a lot of crap going into a small area with a lot of moving parts. I think you’re gonna have clearance issues when you go to add steering. I think I’d have stuck with typical a frame control arms. It would just be a lot easier in the long run. Interested to see how you plan to bump stop that wo adding a super long piece off the arms that’s likely going to break when hit hard.
Dallas Urbank
Dallas Urbank 8 ամիս առաջ
How are you stabilizing the beams? Radius arms?
daniel Imbriaco
daniel Imbriaco 8 ամիս առաջ
i see a traxxas slash
2 Kool Chris
2 Kool Chris 8 ամիս առաջ
I died laughing when Ike said “we have a small package”
Nick W
Nick W 8 ամիս առաջ
Not gonna research a real trophy truck huh? Bathtub with a junk rear end out of a car is definitely a bad idea, weight vs hp that motorcycle engine isn’t gonna be happy about turning a car differential
Josh Hagen
Josh Hagen 8 ամիս առաջ
You should build plate box’s that mate with the upper link and follow up the bottom link for more stability... I guess you could even build shock mounts or some like that
Cecil Andrews
Cecil Andrews 8 ամիս առաջ
The radius arms will determine your travel.
Chris Stover
Chris Stover 8 ամիս առաջ
Love it but how u going to steer???? But I say cut the bottom bars off behind the motor and then go off the cut and narrow and taper it on the way to the front
la_Plata 8 ամիս առաջ
I like how my order is 7 to 10 days out from even been touched by gps but these clowns can have a pallet shipped to them. BMI karts shipped my stuff in less than 24hrs was at my house in 48hrs. Sounds like gps is on vacation.
Rhenz team7
Rhenz team7 8 ամիս առաջ
Simon Allan
Simon Allan 8 ամիս առաջ
Just an idea for a liquid cooled rear engine, I put a Subaru motor in my beach buggy and used the chassis inside to feed the radiator at the front, saved having hoses everywhere and of course my welds didn't leak 😉, no problem with corrosion with nonferrous antifreeze and I didn't need a fan, worked awesome even as a heater kind of, I don't know why that method isn't used more often 🤗 cheers good show keep it up.
Ryan P
Ryan P 8 ամիս առաջ
Make it a 2 seater
Dan N
Dan N 8 ամիս առաջ
Twin pipe suspension.
DarkLinkAD 8 ամիս առաջ
Out-words are fine, but AM-posts might give you trouble with the In-Words. 4:17
Harvey Branch
Harvey Branch 8 ամիս առաջ
I think you should put a removable scape cover so you don't half to worry about bustting a oil pan and with it be removable still be able to brop the engine if you need to work on it and I have a video request please respond to know I really would like to see y'all do it
Colton Fortier
Colton Fortier 8 ամիս առաջ
You should have mounted the beams on the bottom crossmember and kept the beams more straight, its stronger and you'll get better geometry. I got a bronco and have learned a lot about ttb
B.J. Builds
B.J. Builds 8 ամիս առաջ
CarsandCameras you should try to contact grindhard plumbing co because they know alot about sus so maybe they could help you guys with some questions.
Chad Hundley
Chad Hundley 8 ամիս առաջ
You guys should collaborate with the Grind Hard guys
S Wylie
S Wylie 8 ամիս առաջ
Not gonna work.
LJM2stepspain 8 ամիս առաջ
You guys should try to get a GFuel sponsorship or something lol. They seem liberal with their money. You can play it up to how you can work these long days because of your gfuel 😂 Whatever it takes to get us more content.
Matt Tafelski
Matt Tafelski 8 ամիս առաջ
Tryna be grind hard plumbing
Kyle Cano
Kyle Cano 8 ամիս առաջ
Can y out guys please do a video on making a cart quieter or even silenced maybe plz
TheFurriestOne 8 ամիս առաջ
Needs an optional faux-wood paneling skin so you can dress it up like a coffin on Halloween! ;) Ribbing aside, it's looking great!
Twhicks 8 ամիս առաջ
You guys have a mini trophy truck you should get a rc one to I recommend a Traxxas slash either 4x4 or 2wd
Curtis Harrison
Curtis Harrison 8 ամիս առաջ
Skid plate,badass guys.
Christian Moody
Christian Moody 8 ամիս առաջ
Look up the DNQ karting series 👌🏼
nathan butler
nathan butler 8 ամիս առաջ
Grind hard plumbing guys are making y'all step up your fabrication game. There putting out masterpieces, you guys still hacking stuff together. Just run a lower a arm with a axle spindle and a shock on a shock mount
s10 mafia
s10 mafia 8 ամիս առաջ
Not to be that guy but should have went long travel ifs would have Ben way more simple
Nick lokey
Nick lokey 8 ամիս առաջ
the trick to steering with the twin i beam is to get your pivot on the steering further out than the pivot on the i beam. to get it exact perfect you need to make your radius arms and draw a line from the rear radius arm pivot through the i beam pivot on that side and itll give you a point to place the steering pivot. this is for the swing set steering that makes little to no bump steer. i spent months trying to figure this out for my truck build. basically the ibeam and radius arm make a big A arm. hit me up if you need a drawing lol i could email it to you
David Kelm
David Kelm 8 ամիս առաջ
That I Beam stuff just seams a little jenkie to me 🤓
Tortol 8 ամիս առաջ
I just found a semi old racing kart for sale in my area. It looks similar to the 200cc shifter kart that John has. It says it has a new predator 212 with only a few hours on it. One of the wheels is different (it almost looks like a standard go kart wheel) with a taller tire on it so it would need a new wheel. The guy is asking $500. I know nothing about the pricing of something like this. Any of you viewers know what a good price is for it? (assuming it's in good condition, pictures aren't very detailed)
gsppuffer 8 ամիս առաջ
So much information online for proper suspension layout there's no reason to be guess on this fella's
Bryn 8 ամիս առաջ
seriously, its honestly painful watching these guys
MikesMiniBikes 8 ամիս առաջ
Mount both beams to one pivot point
gsppuffer 8 ամիս առաջ
Hell.yeah take that ad money and build that badass shop and better build.I support any ad you run to make your channel better
Birds Garage
Birds Garage 8 ամիս առաջ
@CarsandCameras If you search Trophy Kart on google there’s a company that manufacturers and makes plans for mini 450-600cc trophy trucks (karts) with a body and all. Might be able to get some ideas? Keep building the go karts too guys , always looking forward to the videos!!! 🔥🔥
Gary Collins
Gary Collins 8 ամիս առաջ
If you're going to go with the twin I-beam how and where are you going to install the radius arm to keep that I beam center??
Built Minis
Built Minis 8 ամիս առաջ
Is that a 55 2nd series?? What's up with the cab?
mwilliamshs 8 ամիս առաջ
Those aren't i-beams TTB is 4wd
Arkansas_cars_ 8 ամիս առաջ
I like how they’re just building a car now
W Howe
W Howe 8 ամիս առաջ
Y’all need a big air compressor so bad lol harbor freight ones aren’t that bad!
A Bradley
A Bradley 8 ամիս առաջ
Check out Austin Coulson on here, he did a nice build for $4000 using a crown Vic.
A Bradley
A Bradley 8 ամիս առաջ
Just another go kart with a big motor.
pirahna432 8 ամիս առաջ
This is a really ambitious project. Props to both of you for pushing through the challenges. That takes toughness that many do not possess.
Anthony Hinds
Anthony Hinds 8 ամիս առաջ
So youre going to add hairpins to locate the suspension fore and aft.
Brian W
Brian W 8 ամիս առաջ
Anyone else laugh @5:51
Shaun86 Chevy
Shaun86 Chevy 8 ամիս առաջ
You guys are either smart as heck or didn’t realize that TTB In a ford would be twin traction beam but your is a twin tubular beam which could also be abbreviated TTB!!! Either way it’s a win.
John Gonzales
John Gonzales 8 ամիս առաջ
Did you guys level the blocks ? With the frame off the blocks. The floor could be at a slant which is causing the passenger side tire to look cambered when its plump.
Dean Benson
Dean Benson 8 ամիս առաջ
Wow, is that a BMW K bike engine? You are going to HELL.
jamcat62 8 ամիս առաջ
You're also going to have a "bump steer" issue thanks to the changing geometry of the wheel position vs drag link. And the radius rods may also be problematic.
D L 8 ամիս առաջ
They should make their own version of the m274 mule for not only working on the tracks but to also move the carts/buggies, etc. Around
Das Polecat
Das Polecat 8 ամիս առաջ
Dual wishbone is far superior to twin I beam. Main point- no unwanted camber angle changes as the hub travels
Andrew 8 ամիս առաջ
5:50 my gf giving me a peep talk after quartine XD
C.O.D Outdoors
C.O.D Outdoors 8 ամիս առաջ
You guys need to perk up, have fun! You seem like you are not enjoying this build.
john fasano II
john fasano II 8 ամիս առաջ
is it just me or does jon come off as its mine not yours kinda guy, since this whole shop thing looks like ikes the mechanic ak doing all work jon wants to just reep rewards, idk just my thoughts, i been watching this channel for years fyi
three wheela
three wheela 8 ամիս առաջ
Hair growth meds on the way. Now what Ima do bout my ED?
A9DeN 8 ամիս առաջ
You should make a off-road mower
DakGuy05 8 ամիս առաջ
I'm sure you guys already realized it but it looks like the miata tire is as big as you can go because of the frame.
Louie Cevasco
Louie Cevasco 8 ամիս առաջ
Quick question, Whatever happened to the drag rail?
Untap upkeep draw
Untap upkeep draw 8 ամիս առաջ
I know I'm late to the party here but did you guys work out steering clearances at all because your hubs seem awfully close to your squared off frame for proper amount of steering angle at normal ride height let alone at full compression.
Michael Paul
Michael Paul 8 ամիս առաջ
I'll be honest...☝️ Not liking what I see so far but let's see where y'all end up...🤔 Could predict some issues with bump-steer... Interested in how you get around that...🛠️ Remember you want more down travel than up...⬇️ Keep up the good work guys...👍 Love the channel...♥️
James McGee
James McGee 8 ամիս առաջ
Good deal guys! Don't forget some gussets on those bends.
Hocus Pocus
Hocus Pocus 8 ամիս առաջ
I have watched a few videos over the past few months. It has gotten me interested in go karts at 40 years old. But I am curious about the name Cars and Cameras. If the channel is about go carts and mini bikes, when do the cars and cameras come in? I understand that it is recorded with cameras, but I don't recall them ever being mentioned.
Luke J
Luke J 8 ամիս առաջ
Looks a little like a rat rod
Tanner Hoelscher
Tanner Hoelscher 8 ամիս առաջ
We wanna see a tour of the house and property
JupanulJunior 8 ամիս առաջ
Tip: The front wheels need to be higher to dont hit the engine when you jump or hit a jump. Nice project.
watahyahknow 8 ամիս առաջ
having all those projects in that small room is another good motivation to get more storage a realy fast as in instant and somewat cheap solition would be used shipping containers , you can even set them apart a certan distance maibe even 3 setup in a U shape and build a new roof / carport in between them could put them on each side of youre current barn and use them as supports for the existing roof paint them darkgreen / cammo and plant evergreen trees beside them and they be invisable in about two years or so as for the I beam suspension , you could do a double sytem and basicly make it intoo a long travel cross over double wishbone setup , can make the top ones cross over the top of the mounts , that way they stay out of the way of the bottom ones as for the springs : you could use part of the vw front suspension torsion bar and arm that has the spring inside fitted lengthwize that should give you plenty of travel (need a left and a right one) could hang the rear from a set of them too you will still need a long travel shock , you still could use that front fork legs motorcycle idea for the shock section (take out the build in springs ) just make sure you dont extend them too mush
Automotive Dynamics
Automotive Dynamics 8 ամիս առաջ
why the BMW engine , and why not rear engine like normal mini trophy trucks.....that thing is going to be so nose heavy...............I beams dont have an upper mount , and you should mount the I beams UNDER the're going to need different spindles too.....but whatever , it'll be fine.
micah nelson
micah nelson 8 ամիս առաջ
Hey, remember that video you made about the reverse gearbox, do they happen to have a 1-inch crankshaft model Because I found this old four-wheeler engine and I'm trying to take the Piston part out and just have the transmission but its not going to work that way i want it to because I don't have the gear to put over the crankshaft part I only got the gear for the transmission part
Clarence Cloaca
Clarence Cloaca 8 ամիս առաջ
A Lesson is on the way concerning roll centers. D
Wyatt Yates
Wyatt Yates 8 ամիս առաջ
Why didn't you guys find like a old ford ranger there's your base line for the front suspension
Chaz Whitby
Chaz Whitby 8 ամիս առաջ
Photoshop Explained
Photoshop Explained 8 ամիս առաջ
You guys should really get another welding mask 9:20
flying munk89
flying munk89 8 ամիս առաջ
Your high school photos looks like it was 2 years ago
Roni92pl 8 ամիս առաջ
I love your work on suspension, getting as much travel as possible is the way to go! Cheers ;
Roni92pl 8 ամիս առաջ
I like you CC, there's no lying in you... unfortunately I dont feel the same.about rest of yt organization ;
willowbrook hermit
willowbrook hermit 8 ամիս առաջ
5 seconds.Who drove the Hawaiian.Don't you hate it when the pass pilot can drive 168.In the owner can only drive 120.Just end it for the ride.
Thomas Hodge
Thomas Hodge 8 ամիս առաջ
You guys should do like a triangulated suspensionare you going to have the shocks mounted on the side that go to a pivot pointyou can get more travel out of your suspension
jason stewart
jason stewart 8 ամիս առաջ
i usually love your content. been a sub for years and loving the build but the title says you give the tophy truck twin i beam suspension but ... forgive me for maybe looking too far into it but you've not even got half way into giving it i beam suspension. its almost like it's not a full video. that's just my opinion though. like i said, i love your channel and have been following all your projects for years i just really feel like if you're posting a video showing building the front end suspension, you should actually fully build the front end suspension, not just part of it.
Bobby Law
Bobby Law 8 ամիս առաջ
1st junp...... folds in half? I say the odds are high.
Schmidy _03
Schmidy _03 8 ամիս առաջ
Why not move that piece of flat bar holding the pivot points down further for more ground clearance and travel?
Andrew Gentile
Andrew Gentile 8 ամիս առաջ
Hey everyone go check out impact motor sports channel they are also building a trophy truck since you know no one else online is doing this lol thanks 💯
t pants terrancelee
t pants terrancelee 8 ամիս առաջ
This is gonna be the sickest ride yet. Can’t wait to see how the suspension does on some jumps
William Grasman
William Grasman 8 ամիս առաջ
JonahBMCS 8 ամիս առաջ
I can wait for it to be a roller the then moves on its own power the doing jumps
Nigel Kane
Nigel Kane 8 ամիս առաջ
My ocd hates that front end when the bars over lap each other I feel like they should be symmetrical and go to the nearest point
superspeeed 8 ամիս առաջ
Imagine how insane this would be with an LS1... :)
maniac 8 ամիս առաջ
This project lend itself to rubber band suspension. It`s cheap, simple and effective and a number of diy racecars are built in the UK using this. Even Alec Issigonis designed a racecar with rubber band suspension.
valy 8 ամիս առաջ
Very interesting front suspension, look lite for the weight of the engine, but, you know better.
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